religion and control

<_Just__Bob__> Some ppl need religion.
<Quebecoise> ignore...
<obli> if we really really really for some reason needed a religion to "control" people
<_Just__Bob__> They really need something.. and if it works for them.. let them believe.
<Yusuf> Mrguser i don't know ? told you According to the religion of Islam, Prophet Jesus PBUH is one of Allah's Holiest Prophets....Nothing More
<obli> i don't think christianity is a good choice
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<obli> its inherantly confrontational with pretty much everything on earth for a start
<Yusuf> _Just__Bob__ Atheists are Idiot..End of the topic....Guest_89 is the Proof
<obli> i think we'd be better off with something that built a sense of comunity
<obli> like some equivlent of shrine shinto
<obli> which is intensely local
<_Just__Bob__> Previous studies have tended to assume that intelligent people simply “know better”, the researchers write - but the reasons may be more complex. &lt;- Just what is needed, purports to know better -the Legal system is a fine example.-For instance, intelligent people are more likely to be married, and more likely to be successful in life - and this may mean they “need” religion less.
<obli> so any passions arroused by demagoges and gurus are going to have a less disasterous effect
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<obli> and people have more connection with the spiritual when it is built around local landmarks
<Yusuf> _Just__Bob__ What makes you think they.. Atheists..Are smarter then Belivers ? because they say they believe their Grand-Grand fathers was king kong
<obli> rather than some alien religion from the middle east
<obli> that hates them and their culture
<_Just__Bob__> A religion is nothing more than a political party organized around some guy's moral views,Confucius, Budda, Jesus, Mohammed, like conventional political parties are organized around some guy's economic views.
<_Just__Bob__> These are comments.
<_Just__Bob__> No my views.
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<_Just__Bob__> Big deal.. these two guys.. go ahead and re-research 63 case studies..dating over 100 years.
<Yusuf> You even read those Comments
<_Just__Bob__> OH yes.. there is the real insight as to ppl's opinions.
<Yusuf> Ok later
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<obli> so whats your stance _Just__Bob__
<_Just__Bob__> Some ppl need it.  Do healthy ppl go see a doctor?
<_Just__Bob__> And I see it bothers some.. that some individual goes about life with a sense of happiness and well being for believing in God.
<obli> i take it you are american
<_Just__Bob__> Well yes.. I didn't get to choose.
<_Just__Bob__> Like your relatives.. you don't get to choose them either.
<_Just__Bob__> Or you name.
<obli> capitalist materialism is useless to those countrie in danger of being drowned by american mass culture
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<obli> and christianity is another american tool for their destruction
<_Just__Bob__> I'm sure some could say the same about a few other religions.
<_Just__Bob__> Why ppl hate Americans i do not know.
<obli> have you been to america man?
<_Just__Bob__> We are not responsible for our gov'ts actions.
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<obli> thats called having your cake and eating it man
<_Just__Bob__> I would imagine you are young obli
<obli> it holds little water to the people you are oppressing
<Quebecoise> Americans are arrogants and they like to poke their nose in other's business
<_Just__Bob__> Well I'll try not to speak when either of you two are around.  Loathing my presence?
<obli> do what you like man
<obli> victory isn't won by shuting up each american individually
<obli> its won by countering individualist propaganda