beauty and survival

<heathen_> i can see that patch of blue and feel joy with the understanding of beauty
<obli> the appreachiation of beauty is an evolutionary responce... i wonder how long a self aware speicies would last if it could not appreachiate beauty
<skumbag> why would you need to appreciate beauty to continue a species
<obli> well if everythings just fucking ugly to you... and you know theres a way out
<skumbag> just fuck everything, all the same
<heathen_> people get beatup and beat down , without a daily relationship with natural beauty life is a solid turd of misery
<skumbag> happiness is not essential to life
<skumbag> by the time you have truely come to the conclusion you are morbidly unhappy, you have usually lived life long enough to breed
<obli> has your life been relitively pleasent on the whole skumbag
<obli> in the grand scheme  of things
<skumbag> many species don't know how to commit suicide
<skumbag> yes
<obli> yes that why i said self aware skumbag
<obli> able to say "i am a being like this and these are the possiblities for me
<heathen_> being numb hurts worse than being able to feel
<skumbag> why can't they be self aware and unable to commit suicide?
<obli> becuase intelligence is a diffrent kind of creature from an animal
<skumbag> wrong heathen
<skumbag> why would you say that
<heathen_> being numb means feeling only the misery
<obli> if you are intelligent you can work out that you can kill yourself regardless of speicies
<heathen_> being sensitive and alert means being able to feel the beauty and joy to go along with the misery