on demi gods and saints

<obliv> Otter do you put any stock in the concept of the "demi god"
<@Otter> not really
<@Otter> not as an actual being
<obliv> i mean as something attainible
<@Otter> ah, you mean demigod as in a human who attains godhood?
<obliv> yeah
<obliv> well
<obliv> demi godhood
<@Otter> to me, that's a god
<@Otter> near as i can tell, all my gods went that route
<obliv> :P
<@Otter> the classical sense of a human-god hybrid doensn't fit in my cosmology because my gods are gods by virtue of their achievement rather than because they have god genes
<obliv> heh
<obliv> god genes
<@Otter> what is your take on demigods?
<obliv> i'd say its when you attain a level of acknoledged purpose that it cannot be distroy'd by the acts of men... i.e. where you are going to achive the same world altering effect weather you are alive or "martyred" (to use an incredibly loaded term)
<obliv> but you still care about living as a human
<obliv> fulfiling you base needs and such
<@Otter> so a demigod is about the same as a living saint?
<obliv> i'd have to have a deeper understanding of the meaning of the word saint
<obliv> i think thats more to do with dicipline
<obliv> or disipline is a componant
<obliv> which is not necciciarily a componant of being a demi god
<obliv> like
<obliv> embodying a path
<obliv> Otter
<@Otter> embodying a path = saint?
<obliv> seems like it
<@Otter> how do demigods reach demigoodhood?
<obliv> single mindedness?
<obliv> :P
<@Otter> okay, what exactly do you mean by "acknowledged purpose"?  acknowledged by whom?
<obliv> i mean by society at large
<obliv> once you penetrate the collective unconsiousness :P
<@Otter> hmmm.  is brittany spears a demigoddess?
<@Otter> patron of corporate music and selling out?
<obliv> i hope not
<obliv> kurt cobain is :P
<obliv> tupac is :P
<@Otter> what is the distinction?
<obliv> authenticity i guess
<@Otter> okay
<obliv> :P
<@Otter> going back to your question, then, no
<obliv> heh
<@Otter> i don't put any stock in the concept of demigods
<@Otter> being an influential artist is a long way from godhood
<obliv> its about making yourself into something beyond the usual
* @Otter nods
<@Otter> i agree such people exist, i just woudn't call them demigods
<@Otter> too much semantic conflict with my cosmology