What is a god, again

anything that acts like a saint or a demon isn't a god
i.e. if something exists just to ease the mind of highly strung by giving them something to petition to... not a god
if something has undefined omniuniversal (evil) powers or all events can be ascribed to it
not a god

On satanic entryism into the pagan community

from here it looks like satanism is far right politics in the guise of religion. Anyone who lets them wonder back and forth using paganism as a flag of convenience then turning around and attacking people who legitimately identify as pagan is a sucker.

They pretend to be pagans, like they pretend to be satanists, to recruit for their actual agenda. That's the state of the satanic community and there's no sign of any kind of sea change. They offer nothing and will take everything, then will skip away and leave pagans holding the bag. They don't care if there's another satanic panic, but they aren't going to hang around and take the fire if they bring it about. They'll be in the churches and in the ear of conservative political groups, spurring them on.

If you think there's a value in dangerous cultural provocateurs I agree. But if we are going to embrace them they better be actual pagans, because there's every possibility we'll be made to answer for them .

the relationship between worshipper and deity as primary arena of religion

traditionalism is a perenialism
when you're mixing christian moralism with mumbling about kali yuga, chances are, it's traditionalism

it's a vechial for shipping that there exists a "spiritual aristocracy" and women, non-whites, the weak, etc, are natural slaves as ordaned by metaphyskics

there kind of is in hinduism, and a lot of other patriarchal religions

but traditionalism is about raising that current in them to the organising principle of man kind(edited)
some great spiritual truth
there kind of is in classical polytheism, especially in the strain represented by hesiod, there kind of is in the fetishisation of the nuclear family
there arises this desire to organise everything under a father

render even the most sick and exploitative of systems and relationship in the vocabulary of the familial

there's a debate to be had, and questions to be asked, this is more about the unthinking unasaili bility of the family concept, and flowing from that, the ease it can be instrumentalised to manipulate societal relationships that are entirely unlike the family


which is my immediate problem with traditionalism.... but beyond that it's such a common model for the conception of religion in the post axial age that it obscures other, less tired and more potent, possibilities

imo

i feel like the relationship between man and deity shouldn't be bound by preconceived models
the actualisation of that relationship, is the arena of religion
rather than like... broad metaphysical systematisation, or working out big family trees of the gods and how they interact with each other