Names of Power
you ever thought of changing your name irl
"I had for a time wondered about the possibility of this - only because of the claim out there that ones name (being referred to by it by others) was meant to have some sort of level of effect upon the person"
i mean sure
but
it has to be your true name
you know
not just the name you were given
more about names of power yo
i dunno about 'levels of success'
we hew our own paths
construct our own meaning
well some names are move useful for what you seek to achive than others
names of power
Well, the question is how would a person evaluate the level of effect of a given name upon them ?
before making the leapen
intuitively
i mean
for example
Andrew Dice Clay
who is an brash aggressive rude italian america
n
but was born Andrew Clay Silverstein
andrew dice clay was just a charcter he did
that slowly engulfed his life
like that commedian who plays chopper
but to a greater extent
I suppose they both tend to be representative of some idea. Grant Morrison has famously talked about stuff like the Golden Arches being comparable to sigils or whatever. I think the similarity differs depending on tradition and approach too. Some traditions have people choose magical names, some are chosen for them. Sometimes they're for purposes of identity concealment. Anonymity isn't really something a company would be going for, and they're unlikely to let someone from outside the entity choose their name either
what about
That's almost in between the two I guess. It's obviously good for her marketing to have that as her nom-de-plume. Would Aleister Crowley have been as successful is he'd stuck to being called Edward Alexander Crowley?
E.A.
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thomas browne seemed to get by : p
The Crowley name change was very self-conscious marketing, whether or not it actually makes a difference is debatable, but the story goes that he read somewhere that people were more likely to be noteworthy if their names followed a "dum-da-da dum-da" meter, hence Aleister Crowley. He took the Aleister part from Percy Bysshe Shelley's Alastor
good plan
Finally, someone is talking about the mouthfeel
what do you think of William Sharp
Again, echoes of Crowley. The Equinox is largely his writing, though you wouldn't know it if you looked at the list of authors
yeah
Is it possible that Fiona MacLeod's writing was better? Or do you think the name itself mattered?
having not read it
I'm a little wary of talking about this, but -redacted- springs to mind
i use -redacted- liberally
A collective of one?
at this point
A few weeks ago I talked about my username (not -redacted- the other one.) Juxtaposition of the technologically advanced notion of a -readacted- with the -redacted- fight against the alienation that -redacted- bring, plus a nod to Donna Haraway
how would you compare an company name to an magical name
I suppose they both tend to be representative of some idea. Grant Morrison has famously talked about stuff like the Golden Arches being comparable to sigils or whatever. I think the similarity differs depending on tradition and approach too. Some traditions have people choose magical names, some are chosen for them. Sometimes they're for purposes of identity concealment. Anonymity isn't really something a company would be going for, and they're unlikely to let someone from outside the entity choose their name either
Company names tend to be going for some amount memetic resilience and replicability (though not always. I'm sure Cambridge Analytica would have been happier if no-one ever heard of them)
Whereas I'm not sure that a magical name is intended to colonise people's mental space and be passed around in the same way
what about
wiccan names like silver ravenwolf
some names are move useful for what you seek to achive than others
That's almost in between the two I guess. It's obviously good for her marketing to have that as her nom-de-plume. Would Aleister Crowley have been as successful is he'd stuck to being called Edward Alexander Crowley?
E.A.
korealetting
Best Scooby-Doo reveal ever
thomas browne seemed to get by : p
otoh
there were plenty of ancient authors writing as zoroastor
The Crowley name change was very self-conscious marketing, whether or not it actually makes a difference is debatable, but the story goes that he read somewhere that people were more likely to be noteworthy if their names followed a "dum-da-da dum-da" meter, hence Aleister Crowley. He took the Aleister part from Percy Bysshe Shelley's Alastor
good plan
i think mouthfeel is important
Finally, someone is talking about the mouthfeel
what do you think of William Sharp
who wrote "the pagan review" in 1890
as like 6 diffrent authors
and found success as Fiona Macleod
and none as william sharp
Again, echoes of Crowley. The Equinox is largely his writing, though you wouldn't know it if you looked at the list of authors
J K Rowling went by her initials because her publishers were concerned that she'd lose male readers if she called herself Joanne in the byline
yeah
i publish my writing under my initials
Is it possible that Fiona MacLeod's writing was better? Or do you think the name itself mattered?
having not read it
it's possible
i mean i think part of the potency of a name of power
is having the guts to claim it
but i don't think you can just claim a name of great power unearned
i knew a kid who thought he was king arthur
really didn't have what it takes to claim that name at all
tbf few do
to be realistic
few would
not as few as should
I'm a little wary of talking about this, but -redacted- springs to mind
-redacted- sounds simultaneously like a WWI soldier, a beer, and a car mechanic
And it encapsulates what he's trying to sell perfectly
-redacted- has none of that potency
i use -redacted- liberally
i like the ambiguity
A collective of one?
at this point
the opaqueness
wish i had a personal name as good
A few weeks ago I talked about my username (not -redacted- the other one.) Juxtaposition of the technologically advanced notion of a -readacted- with the -redacted- fight against the alienation that -redacted- bring, plus a nod to Donna Haraway
My irl name is gender ambiguous. A couple of weeks ago I got invited to a women-in-tech meeting at my company because the person sending the email obviously made the wrong assumption when they came to my name in the employee roster.
unless you are blessed with a great name
i suspect
claiming a name is an important part of the pursuit of meaning
as a tool
if nothing else
but it's as much an act of reaching as an act of climbing

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