Monday, 19 May 2014

lovecraft and the cult

the cult isn't going away. its not the cowboy or the soldier, an object of shame in the face of the reality of manifest destiny, or Vietnam and Iraq. like the soldier and the cowboy the cult is at a low ebb, in the wake of jones town and heavens gate, but as those events recede into the distance the cult begins to suffer a vacuum of meaning. hopefully, this will resolve it'self into something new... without the demagogue... the man calling himself jesus...
lovecraft understood the inherent sinisterness of the cult... but there never seems to be the leader controlling a group of followers... the focus is always on some higher entity... the powerful in the cult don't control the other cultists... they know what to do because they all share the same focus... the powerful in the cult are the magicians and those that they control are those outside the cult... theres an unspoken seductive aspect to the cult in lovecraft... an understanding of the rapture... a villainous inverse of poetry and the gods... a mocking understanding of cosmic indifference replacing a truth he doesn't want to confront... the gods are just in their monstrosity.

Tuesday, 13 May 2014

The Confusion of Untested Champions

[19:28] <jmickle> i find a lot of the time when i learn more about someone i admire that i learn more of their flaws but rather than make me dislike them it makes me appreciate them more
[19:29] <NietzschenMoustache> what about the people that the people that you admire admire
[19:32] <jmickle> I don't necessarily know who those people are
[19:32] <jmickle> sometimes those people /are/ the flaws
[19:34] <jmickle> and its not always. sometimes i dislike someone the more i find out about them
[19:34] <jmickle> the world is a complicated place, NietzchenMoustache
[19:38] <NietzschenMoustache> what about if you like someone more the more terible you find them to be
[19:38] <jmickle> I guess that could occur depending on the nature of which you like them
[19:38] <jmickle> there might be someone you Like (but not Support) purely because of the way in which they are terrible
[19:42] <NietzschenMoustache> the problem is people who were never tested jmickle
[19:43] <jmickle> tested?
[19:43] <NietzschenMoustache> you will forever be unsure of their character
[19:43] <rknol> hi
[19:43] <jmickle> are you implying eugenics
[19:43] <NietzschenMoustache> i mean
[19:43] <jmickle> hey ruben
[19:43] <NietzschenMoustache> never given the opportunity to fail horrificly
[19:44] <NietzschenMoustache> show themselves to be good or terrible
[19:44] <NietzschenMoustache> it just exists as a potential
[19:44] <NietzschenMoustache> becuase they died to soon
[19:44] <rknol> what's up jmickle
[19:44] <jmickle> life is interesting for giving everyone a very different situation
[19:44] <jmickle> nm just at work
[19:45] <rknol> same
[19:45] <rknol> my weekend just ended
[19:45] <NietzschenMoustache> its problematic jmickle ... when they were pioneers of a new philosophy