on the afterlife
<obli> its because the afterlife is based upon nohing but wishful thinking, so it can be whatever you want to argue it is...
<obli> i have more sympathy for highly imaginative accounts like "a subaltern in spirit land"
<obli> or ghosts which are at least theoreticly falsifiable
<Maeror> heya
<obli> hi Maeror
<Etheretic> 'The Holographic Universe' by Michael Talbot is also very recommendable.
<Maeror> intresting book
<Etheretic> o., this sounds like scientism; 'anything not covered by our current theories or their supporting instruments can't measure does not, can not, exist.'
<Etheretic> so the demand for falsifiability is only valid within the current scientific frame of reference which is nihilistic, materialistic and reductionistic.
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<Etheretic> yo Tj_ :)
<obli> when the other option is to pick something to beleive arbittrarilly based upon what you hope is true...
<Etheretic> i used to be a materialist/atheist. began reading up on NDEs (near death experiences) which proves beyond reasonable doubt that consciousness is independent from the brain. that was my starting point. have gone deeper into the rabbithole since.
<Etheretic> so it has nothing to do with hope as such. it's just what seems most probable from available data.
<obli> i am neither a materialist nor an athiest.. the afterlife isn't my primary obession though so i have no tearing need to beleive anything about it, and i'm not going to buy into whatever i'm told becuase theres a million ways you can manipulate people with moonshine about the afterlife
posted by Classical Polytheist @ 14:23
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